Does anyone besides me long for more dumb tvs these days? Are there actually and dumb tvs being made? The problem with all these smart sets is they can lock you out not only of 3rd party apps, but in some cases won’t even work unless you have internet.
Atm my main tv has roku built in,and I despise it. But when I shop around for a new tv all of them have some sort of OS built in.
Sell me a dumb tv!! lol
Hey @teehar I have Samsung and that has an OS all it’s own, Tizen a royal pain. But that doesn’t matter to me, as the TV is nothing more than a giant monitor, that my Streaming devices are attached to. I have set up all sorts of TVs and don’t even bothering updating them. Using an HDMI cable my Shield Pro is the source of my streaming signal. I never even bothered with the Dev options in the TV. Heck I haven’t even connected it to the internet. My Shield Pro is hardwired to my modem/router.
The problem with some Smart TVs that I have had to deal with is that there’s been no way of avoiding having to deal with the TV’s OS.
My little 24" travel Fire TV fortunately will automatically turn on with my Android box without me having to navigate a starting screen. But not all will.
Smart TVs are a 2 edge sword. One advantage they usually have over older “non-smart” tvs are enhanced AI video processors, which provide a superior picture, along with more options for controlling the picture screen. The downside to Smart TVs is they generally have a bunch of proprietary apps, along with manufacturer updates that hog the limited internal memory, which usually maxes out at 4 - 4&1/2 Gigabites. That is inadequate for adding and using other apps and strains the TV’s operating system, resulting in freeze ups. This is probably the biggest reason why Troypoint members use their own streaming and gaming devices connected to their TVs by HDMI cable. This allows for much greater flexibility and viewing choices.
I actually searched for “Non smart Tvs” and they are out there.
Best Buy was the first on the Google results and prices ranged from hundreds to thousands to tens of thousands of dollars.
Samsung and Sunbrite seem to offer the most options. But there were others.
I didnt look at all the results but they do exist. But for how long? Lol
Based on what I saw on Amazon, sizes for non-smart sets range from 24 to 55 inches and there are no OLED sets, only LEDs. That cuts off those of us that want OLED displays or larger sizes.
Well Best Buy has 65 and 75 inch tvs available. As far as the OLED i am not sure. I am not in the market at the moment so i am not sure of all the features and Specs.
When you are looking for a less popular option than they want to offer amd sell, you cant always get what you want.
But if you try sometimes…
Good points Sim.
‘Smart TVs’ really don’t have the capacity to reliably run a whole lot of verified apps.
Mine is a TCL android. Its brilliant no devices to plug in its all on the TV.
Just ignore the smart tv integrated apps and hook up your favourite streaming device. No sense being limited by their operating systems.
I said dumb tv not ancient artifact lol
But this is what I am getting at about smart tvs.
Blockquote Roku “forces” Terms of Service (TOS) updates by requiring users to accept new terms before they can continue using their Roku devices, essentially locking users out of their TVs until they agree to the updated terms
It would seem that at anytime a tv manufacturer could lock you out of your tv unless you take an update or agree to new tos.
Massive CYA from TV manufacturers. Roku says don’t download 3rd party apps on their TV but offers easy access to HDMI slots. Plug in your favorite streaming device and download whatever you desire. Use your Roku for apps such as Netflix, TUBI, Pluto, etc. This saves space on your streaming device for multiple unverified apps such as the K-Word.
I believe you are spot on. After getting rid of Home Screen apps I don’t want or need, I basically turned off the Wi-fi on my OLED Smart TVs after initial set up but keep up on what is going on with system updates to determine if I even want or need them. The only thing I generally do updates for is my Android TV box, which is a high end model and has occasional updates from the manufacturer.
I have a LG oled smart TV. I stream from a Nvidia Shield Pro. Would there be an advantage to turn off the smart part of the TV? Is that even possible?
No advantage at all. Just plug your shield into your HDMI port and enjoy.
Just turn off your TV’s Wi-Fi. Then periodically check for manufacturer’s O/S updates on line on another device to see if they actually do anything to improve your TV’s performance, (or not) before updating.
When I look for a TV my main priority is Picture Quality .
Don’t care about the extra bells and whistles because will let my external streaming device take care of the rest
I do exactly the same thing. For get plugging in your TV to the internet.
I have not bought a new tv in ten years. I wanted a larger screen with newer technology.
I like simple. Ended up with a 75" Vizio, and Vizio brand I never owned. After the install and set up, I thought I should have done this sooner. The difference was amazing. This model is a QLED, which is Vibrant and bright with excellent sound. always had Samsung mainly. I was steered to Vizio after reading reviews and the price was right. It was tough mounting and getting it unboxed. I am so please with the quality and sound. Most tv’s had lousy sound -since the speakers are behind the screen. Once set up, you can avoid the smart side and work off your service or fire stick by selecting the HDMI port. Best move I ever made.